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I love how it’s been written however frustrating it is at times, it’s pretty much hearts in my eyes for me. How would you change it? /this is getting invasive on the dash you can msg me if you want~ Hah…
I think a lot of people either see there is not many differences between the two Olivias I guess like you and then like me who think they are completely different people with a few similarities because, sure they were born the same person but veered off into very separate lives early on that had strains of similarities because there are elements that will be the same because genetically they’re the same (sort of, anyway idk if Cortexiphan is in Ourlivia’s DNA or just her neurons in her brain or whatever it was). At 3 Our Olivia was experimented on/shot her stepfather at 9/lost her mother at 14 and lives a tragic fighting existence, still, and is selfless and wants everyone to be saved, she wants what is best for all. While I see altOlivia as someone who hasn’t been through much tragedy in her life and is very feisty/just too fun for me and wants to win at everything as she follows her orders and thinks there’s only one option. And I think I’m just too invested in OUR Olivia whom we’ve known for years to connect with any other. So for one, that’s the first thing.
And she did cross into a hostile universe for Peter to save his life because she had to save him because that’s who she is. He was that important to her. When he left after he found out she had all that time to mull over her mistake and in the end when she did save him got trapped for him and had all those 8 weeks of holding on to one thing of him really was all she had to think about, I really see that as her truly loving him THAT much. Plus Peter did have the intention of coming back to be with her, he no interest in the other her. He was so unsure of how to really act but surprised when he met the other one but it would never occur to him in the slightest to think about her like that because our Olivia is the one he’s had a history with. And when he came back, he slept with “her” but didn’t actually sleep with her, the worst kind of betrayal, imo. Whew. For Olivia to come back to that after all she’d been through, I was heartbroken. Everyone’s heartbroken! That much pain can only come from an equal amount of love. ~You only hurt the ones you love~
Next up, I feel like maybe I could understand the concept of another Olivia and Peter IF this whole altuniverse stuff had been around since the pilot and they all knew each other for the same length of time and also less deceit. That’s probably the main reasoning in all of this. But it’s only really been since s3 + the s2 finale, merely and roughly 2ish months over a couple of years…. So I’m still not very understanding of altOlivia and her motives and why she is the way she is. We don’t know who she is/haven’t really seen the true her in her place where she’s not pretending to be someone she’s isn’t. The fact is we don’t know how much was real and how much was fake so essentially it was all fake, just as if you told a lie mixed with truth, doesn’t it debunk anything that might have been true? Am I making sense? I feel like I’m being confusing.
Honestly to me, it was clearly showing to me she started out looking as if she was a bit annoyed by Peter and not really looking forward to doing the mission but she was a good little soldier who accepted her orders because her boss told her and I do think she was manipulated by Walternate and had no idea what she was getting into and she should have made decisions based on her internal motives rather than just what someone told her to do. But she chose to do it because she accepted there was no way but Walternate’s way of us v them.
And when she was here and she kept fumbling around and then smiling and batting her eyelashes to make her mistakes better which sadly worked…I didn’t like that because when has Olivia batted away anything with a smile, I don’t think she would suddenly become sunshine-y just because of Peter. She would be more content, sure, but she will always be haunted by her past for me. But then all of a sudden altOlivia gets to start to feel things for Peter after 8 weeks? When, you know, she was on the receiving end of false affections, the affections Peter thought he was giving Olivia so she must have forgot for a minute he didn’t know she wasn’t the one he was intending to give the affection for and in turn she “got caught up in it/him” which I don’t understand because she has Frank and her whole world she is doing this whole mission for so why does she get to start having real feelings after 8 weeks and it’s valid when our Olivia got to take years to grow close to him and fall for him without realizing it and do so much for him such as get trapped and almost killed in an alternate universe all for him and her entire world, too, you know? And Peter in the episodes so far or ever since Entrada shows me he hates that he was duped and he doesn’t want anything to do with altOlivia because a he states it was manipulation. In that ep he legit threatened to kill her if he found out anything happened to Olivia, pointed a gun at her called her Dunham—couldn’t even call her Olivia because Olivia is Olivia and ever since has been trying ever so carefully to say to Olivia it was only ever her and she was who it was always about and it’s not about the other her because everything between altOlivia and him was a manipulation and he couldn’t want something like that. Again, if they all knew each other on even terms for even times it would possibly make sense. But all this deceit really grates my cheese.
And finally for me Peter became our Peter for Here from the moment September got caught by Walternate this entire chain of events would eventually play out. In that moment, everything lined up to lead to this, most likely but Peter does belong in the Here universe because that’s where Ourlivia is and she’s who he needs because I think that machine is doing something wrong for him and only Olivia can help…because I think they are linked more than we know. And altOlivia being in the Here universe isn’t where she belongs in the end because she is from There and wasn’t brought here but only chose to come here for a stint while Peter in turn was brought here and raised here and it’s where he belongs now because Olivia his here and if she and him likely even more linked in my theory that she was the little girl meant to catch the firefly that he caught and then they met as kids. So for the entire livfe Olivia lived because of Walter’s actions in taking Peter affected her just as it affected Peter it came back around and connected them all in one big loop. Wow that sounds confusing but for the sake of it being even more connect-y for Olivia and Peter, they are who I root for because despite them being from 2 different universes that’s what I like and what’s so crazy and wonderful is that they are from different places and yet their entire lives all revolve around one distinct moment that affected them all. Does that make sense?
As for altOlivia, sure she obviously needs to show some guilt over her actions and I think we’re getting that fallout next week. I’m very curious to see how that end folds out because otherwise I’d honestly be annoyed if they didn’t show her be guilty for ruining her alternate’s live just as she messed up her own by doing what she did. That has to have consequences on a person. Not that I feel sorry for her, really, she did have a choice and she chose to do this to herself. She never actually had to do anything but eh. She chose it. I really blame Walternate in all this for the most part but you can also blame September for the entire mythos because if he hadn’t of been seen by Walternate, none of this would have happened. Or something.
Ok that got long but it’s essentially how I feel. Basically tl;dr it’s the time difference and manipulation. 8 weeks of deceit versus years of loyalty, is all. And I just love everything Peter and Olivia have been literally from the second they met in the Pilot. Ack these thoughts are an utter mess I just have so many feeeeeeelings.